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Post by CardsGM (Mat) on Sept 28, 2016 8:34:16 GMT -5
Below is a list of possible changes being considered for the 2017 season. I'll update them here and ask for new ideas to be posted below. Once posted, the idea will be deleted when it's added to the list under consideration.
1. New Hosting Site: In order to make the best decision for the league in terms of balancing site fees and user utilities, we're considering a move to either ESPN or FANTRAX. Both will be set up tentatively to allow for all league members to see how they look and feel (since there's no cost), then we'll analyze which is best for us and why. We'll have a vote thereafter, likely late Nov or early Dec.
2. The BUYOUT rule needs to be refined by being entered into the constitution, to include dates when buyouts are open and closed, and a separate section for buyouts will be created since the players are not to go through the waivers process in this case. They immediately become free agents. We'll vote on the dates for closing and opening after the WS.
3. 2 week playoff matchups (would make the season 20 weeks vice 23 weeks)
4. Shifting the trade deadline to an earlier date
5. Using $50 of the extra money to allow for a 2nd chance playoff
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Post by CardsGM (Mat) on Nov 23, 2016 5:34:51 GMT -5
Ok everyone, this is the next priority: rule changes. I'd like people to chime in on all issues using the numbers above to detail their thoughts on each. I'll kick it off here:
1. New Hosting Site: DONE!!
2. My recommendation here would be to OPEN the buyouts on May 1st each year and to CLOSE buyouts August 1st
3. Not a fan of 2 week playoffs when we all play 1 week matches all season long, but understand the suggestion.
4. For some reason I like July 15th as the trade deadline (provides 3.5 mths to see if want to go for it)
5. Yes, I support this (and so does FANTRAX)
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Post by RaysGM (Paul) on Nov 23, 2016 9:13:52 GMT -5
1. I have liked using Faxtrax so far. So far it is much better than CBS and should make it easier for the owners and the commissioners to stay up-to-date on the season.
2. I agree with the opening date for buyouts on May 1st, but I would like the close to be Septmember 1st. It seems there are always injuries and players released up to the Sept. 1 roster expansions, so I think the Sept. 1st date would be better.
3. I understand why some would want the two week playoff matchups, I would like to keep it at one week for a couple of reasons: 1) we've been using one week matchups throughout the season, why change for the playoffs; and, 2) sometimes in the MLB, there are surprise playoff winners due to the shortened series - why try to eliminate the surprise winners in our league by going to a two week matchup?
4. I would vote for keeping our trade deadline the same as in MLB - July 31st.
5. I like the idea of a 2nd chance playoff prize.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 9:14:02 GMT -5
1) Love the switch to Fantrax so far! Glad we made the jump.
2) Yes, I like the buyouts then
3) Personally, I think 2 week playoff match ups are a necessity in a league like this. A team can dominate for 23 weeks (current length of our regular season) and then have a couple of bad days and it ruin him/her. While I'm fine with upsets of course, I don't think we should reward inferior teams by making the playoffs more of a crapshoot. By switching the playoff matchups to 2 weeks in length, you still have the possibility for any team to beat another team, but you are doing more to make sure that the result isn't a complete fluke (making it a larger sample size of games). By switching to 2 week playoff matchups, it would only make the 3 regular season 3 weeks shorter (drops from 23 weeks to 20 weeks). In my opinion, 20 weeks is PLENTY long enough for teams to prove that they belong in the playoffs. I would rather reward the teams who perform better in the regular season than give teams trying to sneak into the playoffs (usually hovering around a .500 record anyways) by giving them 3 extra weeks in the regular season. 20 weeks is still a LONG time! Just my 2 cents.
4) Yes, that date sounds good to me! As long as it's shifted up a couple months (it was WAY too late this year), I'm good!
5) Can you remind me what the extra money is? I'm guessing you mean the money we save from switching to Fantrax?
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Post by RockiesGM (Jarrod) on Nov 23, 2016 9:32:20 GMT -5
One comment id like to make on the 2 week playoffs.. During the regular season teams generally play 3 game series, but when playoffs role around they go to 5/7 game series. There's a reason MLB does this and I think it's applicable here in this league. You could use the argument why doesn't MLB just keep the playoff series at 3 games since that's what they all do during the season?
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Post by GiantsGM (Adam) on Nov 23, 2016 17:10:40 GMT -5
I like fantrax. fine with the switch!
no preference on buyout window. whatever is decided is fine by me.
I prefer two week championship, one week playoffs for LDS and LCS. personally, I like to try and make sure the best teams have the best chance of winning it all. a two week championship gives the 'better' of the two teams the best chance to prove it.
keep the tradeline the same as in real life, in my opinion. I liked last season where I was watching my team ponder moves while I myself was making moves (just as important ones!!).
I personally would like to see the $50 bucks to go to either the construction of a sacko trophy or a championship trophy that we pass around to the winner (or loser)
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 17:20:57 GMT -5
I want to change what I said about trade deadline in light of what others said. I think July 31st is best as well. Would be fun to be negotiating deals as MLB teams are. Also, easy to remember!
Adam, out of curiously, why do you only want 2 weeks for championship? I think it's better than what we have now, but there is still a good chance the best team could get knocked out in DS or CS weird if they're only 1 week
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Post by GiantsGM (Adam) on Nov 23, 2016 18:42:30 GMT -5
I'm not too sure I guess - for one, thats how my league's have always done it. one week matches throughout the season and first part of the playoff, and then a two week championship. I guess because it makes the championship seem more official? In addition to that, at some point, by shortening the regular season in favor of a longer playoffs, you're going to have better teams not even make the playoffs in the first place. I'm not saying we are at that point right now, and I dont think I have an answer of what the correct breakdown is between regular season weeks and playoff weeks.
I personally don't care too much either way about the LDS and LCS, but I do feel like two weeks for the championship is needed.
I guess to me its similar to 5- and 7-game series in baseball. the first round matchups are 5 games, later on we move to 7 gamers
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Post by RockiesGM (Jarrod) on Nov 23, 2016 21:05:35 GMT -5
I'm not too sure I guess - for one, thats how my league's have always done it. one week matches throughout the season and first part of the playoff, and then a two week championship. I guess because it makes the championship seem more official? I n addition to that, at some point, by shortening the regular season in favor of a longer playoffs, you're going to have better teams not even make the playoffs in the first place. I'm not saying we are at that point right now, and I dont think I have an answer of what the correct breakdown is between regular season weeks and playoff weeks. I personally don't care too much either way about the LDS and LCS, but I do feel like two weeks for the championship is needed. I guess to me its similar to 5- and 7-game series in baseball. the first round matchups are 5 games, later on we move to 7 gamers I get what you're saying Adam, but if a team can't make it into the playoffs after 20 weeks, then they probably aren't one of the better teams.. Just my two cents. Playing only 20 weeks gives everyone the exact same schedule. Playing 23 does not and could/will affect the outcome of the standings somewhat.. Take for instance if I got to play Nats twice last year, while say Phillies had to play Yankees twice.. Big advantage to playing Nats twice instead of Yanks. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 23, 2016 21:18:37 GMT -5
I agree Jarrod. If we're going to extend championship to 2 weeks, I really think we should do it for the other 2 rounds of the playoffs as well. As I mentioned before, I just really think that 20 weeks is plenty long enough to prove you're a playoff team. I think shortening the regular season just 3 weeks (3 games) to help decrease the chances of an extremely flukey result when it matters most is worth it. Great discussions!
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Post by GiantsGM (Adam) on Nov 23, 2016 21:19:31 GMT -5
Yeah I hear ya... for 23 games, i dont know how flexible the schedule is, but it could be two matches against your four division opponents (8), and 1 match vs all other teams (15) = 23. that could be close to even?
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Post by CardsGM (Mat) on Nov 24, 2016 6:52:44 GMT -5
I agree Jarrod. If we're going to extend championship to 2 weeks, I really think we should do it for the other 2 rounds of the playoffs as well. As I mentioned before, I just really think that 20 weeks is plenty long enough to prove you're a playoff team. I think shortening the regular season just 3 weeks (3 games) to help decrease the chances of an extremely flukey result when it matters most is worth it. Great discussions! In going with what Adam said, it may be a happy medium to suggest a change to a 2 week championship for 2017 and see post-2017 if we want to change the other playoff series as well. |
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Post by Deleted on Nov 24, 2016 9:33:21 GMT -5
Should we make the voting options as follows?
- don't change anything. Keep playoff matchups 1 week long
- change the championship to 2 week matchup, but leave other 2 playoff matchups unchanged
- change all 3 playoff matchups to 2 weeks instead of 1
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Post by GiantsGM (Adam) on Nov 24, 2016 10:34:08 GMT -5
I think that's a good poll to throw up there for a vote
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Post by CardsGM (Mat) on Nov 24, 2016 13:58:25 GMT -5
Should we make the voting options as follows? - don't change anything. Keep playoff matchups 1 week long - change the championship to 2 week matchup, but leave other 2 playoff matchups unchanged - change all 3 playoff matchups to 2 weeks instead of 1 That will be the plan unless we hear otherwise! Does anyone have anything else to chime in? I'll send out an email to make sure all owners know this is going on and to allow another 2 days or so of cases to be made before we throw up some items for vote. The only voting ones will be those contested or that involve $$$, so make your cases heard if you think differently than what was proposed above. Thanks and Happy Thanksgiving! Mat |
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